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Jan. 15th, 2004 @ 03:06 pm
blacksunahead
I have created an art rant journal for people to post and complain, bitch, praise etc art in elfwood, epilogue, deviant art etc. Since the last one was deleted. The link:
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Hmmm... maybe Pinot heard us... Jan. 13th, 2004 @ 12:42 pm
malfoypuppy
I got an email from Pinot saying he is shutting down the Critic's Kiss. Odd.

Community rules posted Jan. 10th, 2004 @ 04:07 pm
lilhole
Before anything else gets posted, please take a look here http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=epiloguerant

If you have anything you'd like to see added or opinions on existing rules, please let me know in this thread.
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A PLACE TO BITCH Jan. 10th, 2004 @ 03:28 pm
ex_pinot_no
Okay, since you all seem to agree with Puppy and Hole that there needs to be a seperate place to air your greivances about particular artists, moderators, etc. and you want to keep this place non-hostile, I have created a new community where we can go just for that.

But be warned, don't go there and don't read if you are sensitive. You might be one of the ones we are ripping to shreds!

I have done this so that we can keep Epirant professional and make legitimate complaints that we want taken seriously and so that it does not turn into a puerile flame war.

Critic's Kiss, however, will be as immature, flamy, and foul as we want to make it. So if you have somebody you really wanna bitch about, come on over!

http://www.livejournal.com/community/criticskiss/

I think Kay may have a point.. Jan. 10th, 2004 @ 01:46 pm
malfoypuppy
If we want to be taken seriously and not thought of to be a bunch of mean spirited hypocrites, we should probably leave off the commentary on people's art. I think a good alternative would be to make a seperate list/community/whatever to critique individuals, since some people (even me!)really seem to need to voice their opinions.



You could provide a link here and/or make it invite only...?

Hell, I will create one if it comes right down to it. And make it invite/application only.


I know that sometimes, it really helps your mental state to be a little mean and catty and you really are tired of not being able to say what you want, particularly when you feel that you have been treated unfairly. But having the person in question, who is totally innocent of any wrong-doing, stumble upon these hurtful comments sort of defeats the purpose as far as I can see.

Other than the personal critiques, I really like this community because before this place existed, there really was no place to voice concerns and complaints. I hate to see it disregarded as a useless flamefest because of a few misunderstandings and some off-subject comments.

Keep in mind that I am not saying that it is wrong to tell the truth about something. Say if a moderator was rude to you or someone in WIP said something catty. That is your opinion about your treatment at the hands of others and I think people are entitled to bitch about that.

But let's face facts, all the bitching in the world about 'so-n-so's art is not as good as mine and they got approved and it just isn't fair' won't get any of us anywhere. Just view them as winning the lottery that their art got by, whether you think it deserved it or not. Maybe it's favouritism, maybe it isn't. I don't know enough about it to make a statement on that because I don't understand the whole process.

And when you call the moderators idiots and say that they have no taste, it only makes them defensive of the pieces that they approved.

Anyway, Epi is imperfect and some changes would be great but I don't think we are gonna convince anyone by being cranky and agressive.
Other entries
» Ah, I love the smell of napalm in the morning!...
Something to watch: (Although it will probably soon be deleted or locked, so I will copy and paste as well as post the URL)
http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/common_room/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=002249

And here's the initial post:
madobe
Forum Apprentice
Member # 1281

posted 01-10-2004 10:40 AM I found this gallery and was wondering why art of others is rejected and this may stay in epilouge. I think itäs alittle weird, this contradiction. not offending this art, but is this epilouge quality? http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/list.pl?gallery=7629&genre=2
» My “beef” With Epilogue...
I’m going to be real honest here...I’ve left Epi about 100 times in the past few years. Only the last one actually counts though. When I first found the place...I sucked. Seriously. But I had been making a living off my art for so long I didn’t realize how bad I truly blew.

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;-) Counting your blessing now eh?
» Why I left Epilogue...
This may be opening me up for flames, and admittedly, I am not a fantastically great artist but I am a good one. And here some of the reasons I quit. The pain of rejection is bad enough but the confusion as to why others were accepted is far worse. Any comments you guys want to give are welcome.
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There were other examples I could give as well but I think you guys get the picture.
» Fantasy??
Can someone tell me how the heck this is in any way fantasy or sci-fi?

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=53127
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